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ParMart- Posté le10 mars 2008

Ca y est c'est parti !

Avec quand même 70 bateaux !!

Voici le communiqué de presse de la première journée :

After much preparation and hard work finally the first day of racing came with the 70 boats taking to the water in a beautiful 12 knots, ideal conditions for the lively Fireball class.

Even though this was only the pre worlds, and effectively a practise regatta for the worlds themselves, the racing was still intense. The first race took 4 general recalls before the fleet finally started cleanly under a black flag.

Peter Inns/Chris Went (AUS 14812) were first to the first mark, making the most of the shifts. Second around the top mark was Greg and Jeff Schulz (AUS 14571) with Vince Horey/Andy Thompson 3rd (GBR 14920) quickly got passed the Schulz’s and the two front boats eased out to a good lead. The wind died to about 8 knots and the adverse current built so the race was shortened to the top mark with Emma Perkins/Jason Heritage (AUS 14603) taking 3rd.

The second race started in about 10 knots with a strong incoming tide, which held the boats back from the start line. Richard Mason/Simon Hextall (GBR 14969) made the most of the tide and port tacked the start crossing the whole fleet.

Peter Gray/Simon Forbes (GBR 14873) led to the first mark from Mason/Hextall and Mee/Wagstaff.

Peter Gray/Simon Forbes (GBR14873) went on to win with Matt Mee/Richard Wagstaff(GBR 14919) climbing to second followed by Robin Inns/Joel Coultas (AUS 14782).

Overall the results are quite mixed, but Matt Mee and Richard Wagstaff are looking very comfortable overall. Team GBR seem to have the upper hand in the conditions with 4 boats in the top ten, but there is plenty of pressure so far from the Swiss, Czechs and Australian teams.

The current World Champion Richard Estaugh/Rob Gardener (GBR 14948) didn’t make it onto the water today, but the 2006 World Champions Erich and Reudi Moser (SUI 14799) struggled to a 20th in the first race and a 7th in the second, just one point behind the Australian Champions Inns/Coultas. Current British national champion Tom Jeffcoate/Mark Hogan (GBR 14949) had a bad day in the office today with a 26th and a 30th.

Results after Day 1:

Pos Sail No Helm Crew R1 R2 Pts
1 GBR 14919 MATT MEE RICHARD WAGSTAFF 4 2 6
2 AUS 14971 GREG ALLISON RICHARD WATSON 7 4 11
3 GBR 14973 PETER GRAY SIMON FORBES 11 1 12
4 CZE 14879 TOMAS MUSIL JAN STANTEJSKY 6 9 15
5 SUI 14724 ADRIAN HUBER BRIGITTE HUBER 10 6 16
6 GBR 14920 VINCE HOREY ANDREW THOMPSON 2 15 17
7 GBR 14976 DAVID WADE BEN McGRANE 8 11 19
8 SUI 14897 KURT VENHODA SONJA ZAUGG 14 5 19
9 AUS 14603 EMMA PERKINS JASON HERITAGE 3 18 21
10 AUS 14936 IAN RAVENSCROFT PAUL GRANT 12 10 22
11 AUS 14812 PETER INNES CHRIS WENT 1 21 22
12 IRL 14840 CONOR CLANCY FRANCIS ROWAN 9 14 23
13 GBR 14969 RICHARD MASON SIMON HEXTALL 18 8 26
14 GBR 14950 KEVIN HOPE RUSSELL THORNE 13 13 26
15 AUS 14782 ROBIN INNS JOEL COULTAS 23 3 26
16 SUI 14799 ERICH MOSER RUEDI MOSER 20 7 27
17 AUS 14943 HEATHER McFARLANE CHRIS PAYNE 5 24 29
18 JPN 14808 TAICHI IMURA MASARU OGAWA 24 12 36
19 THA 11 SUTEE POONPAT VORAVIT VORASAEN 15 22 37
20 THA 14519 KITIPONG KHAMBANG PACHARAPHON O-PUN 19 19 38
21 AUS 14850 BEN SCHULZ BEN NEAYLON 17 28 45
22 AUS 14786 JOHN HEYWOOD BRETT LITTLEDIKE 28 17 45
23 CAN 14680 JAMES COX SIMON PEARSON 22 23 45
24 CAN 14968 JOE JOSPIE TOM EGLI 33 16 49
25 GBR 14887 STEVE GOACHER TIM EDLUND 21 31 52
26 CAN 14828 ROBERT THOMPSON GARETH OWEN 27 26 53
27 IRL 14695 CIARAN HICKEY MARY HICKEY 54 DNF 54
28 AUS 14571 GREG SCHULZ JEFF SCHULZ 16 38 54
29 CAN 7597 NOAH PURVES - SMITH MICHAEL LIETCH 25 29 54
30 USA 14927 DEBBIE KIRKBY NED GOSS 35 20 55
31 GBR 14949 TOM JEFFCOATE MARK HOGAN 26 30 56
32 AUS 14587 NATHAN STOCKLEY SAM MUIRHEAD 29 27 56
33 IRL 14894 NOEL BUTLER SEAMUS MOORE 32 25 57
34 NED 14069 ALBERT BADOUX ROELAND DE JONG 57 DNF 57
35 GBR 14755 CHRIS DANDO MICHELLE RYDER 31 34 65
36 IRL 14854 LOUIS SMYTH SUZIE MULLIGAN 37 35 72
37 CAN 14813 JOHN HENDERSON MARGOT HENDERSON 40 32 72
38 AUS 14414 GLEN PEVERELL SARAH BIGNELL 30 44 74
39 JPN 14509 YUSUKE SHIMOTSUMA KOICHI TSURUMOTO 39 37 76
40 IRL 14877 FRANK MILLER MARGUERITE O'ROURKE 36 41 77
41 AUS 14745 JAMES SZPUNAR PHILLIP BOWLEY 45 36 81
42 AUS 14722 RICHARD McCULLOCH GLENN STUART 41 42 83
43 CAN 14835 MIKE McEVOY JEREMY KENNEDY 34 50 84
44 CAN 14480 ROY TICHKOWSKY FRANK KORTBEEK 46 40 86
45 CAN 14156 FRANK CRAWFORD SEAN HOLMES SMITH 47 39 86
46 CAN 14481 MADDY PURVES - SMITH GREGG FURGUSON 55 33 88
47 THA 470 PREECHA DANGPATUM TODSAPOL JORNJAITRONG 37 51 88
48 SUI 14921 MAJA SUTER FRANCOIS SCHLUCHTER 51 43 94
49 CAN 14727 COLIN HUGGETT GEOFFREY HUGGETT 42 53 95
50 AUS 14153 TIM NINNES DANIEL McLAREN 49 46 95
51 AUS 14530 TONY SCHNAARS JOHN WEIGAND 44 52 96
52 AUS 14814 ANDREW CROSSLEY PETER CROSSLEY 50 48 98
53 CAN 11800 MARK CUMMINGS EVELYN CHISHOLM 43 55 98
54 IRL 1489 JOHN CHAMBERS IAN McGONIGLE 52 47 99
55 CAN 12934 LAURA TICHKOWSKY KEN TICHKOWSKY 56 45 101
56 GBR 14872 BARBARA NEWSON GUY NEWSON 53 49 102
57 SHE 14636 JOHN MANSON IVAN FRASER 48 54 102
58 GBR 14964 DAVID GILES DAVID MASON 68 68 136
58 SUI 14961 DOMINIK MUELLER CHRISTINE MEBES 68 68 136
58 GBR 14948 RICHARD ESTAUGH ROB GARDENER 68 68 136
58 JPN 14947 YASUJI SHIMIZU MINORU KOSAKA 68 68 136
58 JPN 14902 HIROSHI KATO SADAHIRO KUMAGAI 68 68 136
58 GBR 14791 PHILIP POPPLE STEVE CHESNEY 68 68 136
58 CAN 14768 ROB LEVY STEPHEN WALDIE 68 68 136
58 IRL 14765 OWEN LAVERTY ED BUTLER 68 68 136
58 JPN 14751 YASUHITO TSUKAHARA YUICHI NAKAMURA 68 68 136
58 THA 14444 KEVIN WHITCRAFT BIRANUBONGSE BHANUBAND 68 68 136

Étiquettes

http://fireball-international.blogspot.com/

Le blog de l'Australien Chris Payne, qui envoie des nouvelles régulièrement.

Au détour d'un message, on apprend que le bateau loué par Tomas Musil pour le Mondial a été construit par un nouveau chantier basé à Singapour.

http://www.adelaidesailingclub.com.au/Fireball%20Worlds%202008.html

Le site du club australien d'Adelaide, avec quelques photos.
Et, pour "remettre une pièce" à propos des numéros de voile, le Fire le plus neuf au Mondial sera le 14992...

Ah, c'est justement sur le 14992 que naviguent Tomas et Jan... Chantier de Tim Ross (quelqu'un connaît ??) de Singapour.

http://picasaweb.google.com/aus14782

Les photos de Joel Coultas...

Oui effectivement, je me fais un peu chier au boulot aujourd'hui !!

Mart',
Tu ne nous a pas parlé de la météo, des filles, de la bouffe, .... lol

Les manches 3 et 4, par Chris Payne :

Day 2 2008 Fireball International Pre-Worlds – Thailand

The second day of sailing looked promising, with a light breeze blowing onto the beach. On the way out to the start the wind built to a lovely 14 knots, enabling all crews to be fully stretched. After two general recalls the black flag was flown and the fleet got off to an even start. The majority of the fleet went left with some intrepid sailors hitting the right hand corner. The regatta leader Matt Mee/Richard Wagstaff(GBR 14919) showed his form by rounding second at the windward mark, just behind Robin Inns/Joel Coultas (AUS 14782). During the race a thunderstorm lurked and swung the breeze by about 50 degrees to the left making for interesting racing amongst the leaders. Mee/Wagstaff slipped back a couple of times, but managed to slip through to win the race. Tomas Musil/ Jan Stantejsky(CZE 14879) snuck through to second.

The second race was much lighter with the thunderstorm moving on and the tide having increased dramatically. The start got away first go as the tide was against the fleet. Boats were sailing hard just to try and get across the line against the tide. This caused the fleet to split into two. The boats going left to get out of the tide, or right to get stronger wind. The local Thai boats got it right on the right hand side, and the boats on the left ended up a long way back. Unfortunately Mee/Wagstaff and Musil/Stantejsky were caught out, letting Yusuke Shimotsuma /Koichi Tsurumotousuke (JPN 14509) get to the first mark first ahead of Kitipong Khambang/Pacharaphon O-Pun (Tha 14519). Kevin Hope/Russell Thorne (GBR 14950) got past them on the second reach and went on to win from Nathan Stockley/Sam Muirhead (AUS 14587).

David Wade/Ben McGrane (GBR 14976) have now taken over the lead from Mee/Wagstaff on total points, but if drops were included then Mee/Wagstaff would be back in front.

Et pis le classement général...

NCA SAIL No HELM CREW RACE 1 RACE 2 RACE 3 RACE 4 OVERALL
1 GBR 14976 DAVID WADE BEN McGRANE 8 11 6 4 29
2 GBR 14919 MATT MEE RICHARD WAGSTAFF 4 2 1 25 32
3 CZE 14879 TOMAS MUSIL JAN STANTEJSKY 6 9 2 18 35
4 GBR 14950 KEVIN HOPE RUSSELL THORNE 13 13 10 1 37
5 GBR 14920 VINCE HOREY ANDREW THOMPSON 2 15 15 5 37
6 AUS 14812 PETER INNS CHRIS WENT 1 21 8 7 37
7 SUI 14897 KURT VENHODA SONJA ZAUGG 14 5 17 3 39
8 AUS 14971 GREG ALLISON RICHARD WATSON 7 4 22 14 47
9 AUS 14782 ROBIN INNS JOEL COULTAS 23 3 3 24 53
10 AUS 14943 HEATHER McFARLANE CHRIS PAYNE 5 24 7 20 56
11 AUS 14786 JOHN HEYWOOD BRETT LITTLEDIKE 28 17 5 8 58
12 AUS 14936 IAN RAVENSCROFT PAUL GRANT 12 10 19 22 63
13 AUS 14587 NATHAN STOCKLEY SAM MUIRHEAD 29 27 9 2 67
14 JPN 14808 TAICHI IMURA MASARU OGAWA 24 12 25 11 72
15 THA 11 SUTEE POONPAT VORAVIT VORASAEN 15 22 12 23 72
16 GBR 14973 PETER GRAY SIMON FORBES 11 1 20 44 76
17 THA 14519 KITIPONG KHAMBANG PACHARAPHON O-PUN 19 19 32 6 76
18 CAN 14680 JAMES COX SIMON PEARSON 22 23 21 12 78
19 AUS 14603 EMMA PERKINS JASON HERITAGE 3 18 23 34 78
20 AUS 14850 BEN SCHULZ BEN NEAYLON 17 28 11 28 84
21 IRL 14840 CONOR CLANCY FRANCIS ROWAN 9 14 28 35 86
22 GBR 14949 TOM JEFFCOATE MARK HOGAN 26 30 4 30 90
23 SUI 14799 ERICH MOSER RUEDI MOSER 20 7 24 39 90
24 AUS 14571 GREG SCHULZ JEFF SCHULZ 16 38 26 10 90
25 GBR 14887 STEVE GOACHER TIM EDLUND 21 31 16 29 97
26 IRL 14894 NOEL BUTLER SEAMUS MOORE 32 25 14 27 98
27 GBR 14969 RICHARD MASON SIMON HEXTALL 18 8 13 68 107
28 AUS 14414 GLEN PEVERELL SARAH BIGNELL 30 44 37 13 124
29 AUS 14745 JAMES SZPUNAR PHILLIP BOWLEY 45 36 18 26 125
30 AUS 14722 RICHARD McCULLOCH GLENN STUART 41 42 27 16 126
31 CAN 14828 ROBERT THOMPSON GARETH OWEN 27 26 31 43 127
32 JPN 14509 YUSUKE SHIMOTSUMA KOICHI TSURUMOTO 39 37 42 9 127
33 CAN 14968 JOE JOSPIE TOM EGLI 33 16 35 47 131
34 USA 14927 DEBBIE KIRKBY NED GOSS 35 20 29 50 134
35 CAN 7597 NOAH PURVES - SMITH MICHAEL LIETCH 25 29 33 48 135
36 IRL 14854 LOUIS SMYTH SUZIE MULLIGAN 37 35 44 21 137
37 CAN 14813 JOHN HENDERSON MARGOT HENDERSON 40 32 49 17 138
38 CAN 14156 FRANK CRAWFORD SEAN HOLMES SMITH 47 39 45 15 146
39 GBR 14755 CHRIS DANDO MICHELLE RYDER 31 34 34 51 150
40 SUI 14724 ADRIAN HUBER BRIGITTE MAUCHLE 10 6 68 68 152
41 CAN 14727 COLIN HUGGETT GEOFFREY HUGGETT 42 53 39 19 153
42 IRL 14877 FRANK MILLER MARGUERITE O'ROURKE 36 41 36 52 165
43 CAN 14481 MADDY PURVES - SMITH GREGG FURGUSON 55 33 46 31 165
44 THA 470 PREECHA DANGPATUM TODSAPOL JORNJAITRONG 37 51 47 36 171
45 CAN 14835 MIKE McEVOY JEREMY KENNEDY 34 50 43 49 176
46 AUS 14530 TONY SCHNAARS JOHN WEIGAND 44 52 38 46 180
47 CAN 14480 ROY TICHKOWSKY FRANK KORTBEEK 46 40 51 45 182
48 SHE 14636 JOHN MANSON IVAN FRASER 48 54 40 42 184
49 CAN 12934 LAURA TICHKOWSKY KEN TICHKOWSKY 56 45 53 33 187
50 CAN 11800 MARK CUMMINGS EVELYN CHISHOLM 43 55 54 37 189
51 SUI 14921 MAJA SUTER FRANCOIS SCHLUCHTER 51 43 55 41 190
52 AUS 14153 TIM NINNES DANIEL McLAREN 49 46 41 54 190
53 GBR 14872 BARBARA NEWSON GUY NEWSON 53 49 52 40 194
54 GBR 14791 PHILIP POPPLE STEVE CHESNEY 68 68 30 32 198
55 AUS 14814 ANDREW CROSSLEY PETER CROSSLEY 50 48 50 53 201
56 SUI 14961 DOMINIK MUELLER CHRISTINE MEBES 68 68 48 38 222
57 IRL 1489 JOHN CHAMBERS IAN McGONIGLE 52 47 68 68 235
58 IRL 14695 CIARAN HICKEY MARY HICKEY 54 68 68 55 245
59 NED 14069 ALBERT BADOUX ROELAND DE JONG 57 68 68 68 261
60 GBR 14964 DAVID GILES DAVID MASON 68 68 68 68 272
60 GBR 14948 RICHARD ESTAUGH ROB GARDENER 68 68 68 68 272
60 JPN 14947 YASUJI SHIMIZU MINORU KOSAKA 68 68 68 68 272
60 JPN 14902 HIROSHI KATO SADAHIRO KUMAGAI 68 68 68 68 272
60 CAN 14768 ROB LEVY STEPHEN WALDIE 68 68 68 68 272
60 IRL 14765 OWEN LAVERTY ED BUTLER 68 68 68 68 272
60 JPN 14751 YASUHITO TSUKAHARA YUICHI NAKAMURA 68 68 68 68 272
60 THA 14444 KEVIN WHITCRAFT BIRANUBONGSE BHANUBAND 68 68 68 68 272

dommage, 'y a pas de FRA...

(ou alors vachement bien caché)

Effectivement, pas de FRA cette année ! Nouel, reviens !!

Jour off aujourd'hui à Pattaya, le championnat reprend demain.

Quelques trucs en regardant le classement :
- Visiblement Estaugh et Rob Gardner (Champions du Monde en titre) n'ont toujours pas enlevé le tauds de leur bateau...
- Copain Wade a l'air en forme, mais il devrait se faire repasser par Wagstaff dès que la plus mauvaise manche sera décomptée. Sans leur manche de 25, Mee/Wagstaff seraient largement en tête
- Vu les résultats, ça a l'air super serré comme régate (le leader a 8-11-6-4) !
- Spunky a l'air en forme itou... Go go Spunky !
- La place de Kuk et Sonja colle parfaitement avec la météo (petit temps vers le petit médium)... Vous voyez les Fouassier ce que vous pourriez faire à l'international !!
- Par contre, surprenant de voir Tom Jeffcoate et Mark Hogan (Champions d'Angleterre, 3èmes Mondial 2007) 22èmes...
- Et pareil pour les Moser !

Martin,
14 noeuds: nous commencons a avoir la meme conception du petit temps ou alors Tom a grossi depuis que je suis parti...

Scuse, j'étais resté aux 8-10-12 noeuds de la veille... Et 14 noeuds, c'est bien du "petit médium", non ?

Ca va toi au fait ? Tu navigues un peu là-bas au Zétazuni ?

Il faudrait mettre des patins sous le fire car les lacs sont encore geles.-5 ce matin le printemps arrive !

En plus ici ils me feraient prendre de mauvaises habitudes ils ont des scows qui sont fait pour naviguer gites : 2 derives inclinees , dans le virement il faut descendre une derive et remonter l'autre, mais il n'y a pas de trapeze. ou aors ils des bateaux genre snipe pas trop fun.
j'essaire de trouver un club avec des 5o5 car il n'y a aucun Fire dans le coin.

Le lac Michigan, il est gelé que sur les bords, non? Au milieu, ça doit être navigable.
Mais tu as raison, il vaut mieux s'abstenir que de nous revenir avec des mauvaises habitudes. C'est Aline qui ne serait pas contente!!

as-tu eu l'occasion de voir (et de visiter) des Schooner? Ces bateaux sont magnifiques.

Day 3 2008 Fireball International Pre-Worlds – Thailand

The third day of sailing for the pre worlds was sailed in a beautiful 14-15 knots in the lovely warm waters of Pattaya. The tide was running against the wind in the first race, which caused 3 general recalls before the fleet got away on the black flag. Three boats were still over at the start including 2006 World Champions Erich and Ruedi Moser(SUI). Robin Inns/Joel Coultas(AUS) were first to the first mark just ahead of the regatta leaders David Wade/Ben McGrane(GBR), and these two stayed in this position until the end. Current World Champion, Richard Estaugh/ Rob Gardener(GBR) finally ventured out on to the race course and showed they are still competitve and finished third.

The second race was slightly less wind lighter and the tide had turned to hold the fleet back from the start. Finally the Czech Champion Tomas Musil/Jan Stantejsky in the brand new boat built by Xtreme Sailing Products broke clear on the first beat and was first to the first mark ahead of R.Inns/Coultas(AUS) and Nathan Stockley/Sam Muirhead(AUS). Stockley/Muirhead managed to get ahead of Inns/Coultas on the second beat to get a second.

Matt Mee/Richard Wagstaff(GBR) broke their mainsheet in the first race and were unable to finish, but climbed to 4th in the second race. The smaller Swiss crews Kurt Venhoda/Sonja Zaugg and Adrian Huber/Brigitte Mauchle didn’t have the power through the windier conditions and have dropped out of the top ten, leaving it to Team GBR, the lone Czech and the top Australians. The top Thai boat Sutee Poonpatt/Voravit Vorasaen also struggled in the stronger conditions and have slipped to 21st.

With one day (2 races) and 9 points separating the top 6, it is all to play for.

After the pre worlds there is a lay day with the World Championships starting in earnest on Sunday 16th March.

Tomas Musi et Jan Stantejsky gagnent le Pré-Mondial !

Et sur le bateau tout frais sorti du moule du nouveau chantier de Singapour, Xtreme Sailing Products...

Voilà le compte-rendu de Chris Payne :

Day 4 2008 Fireball International Pre-Worlds – Thailand

The fourth day of sailing for the pre worlds was another beautiful day sailed in 13-10 knot for the first race, and down to 7 knots in the second.

Again the tide was running against the wind in the first race, which caused 4 general recalls and eight boats were sent home before the start. Robin Inns/Joel Coultas(AUS) were first to the first mark just ahead of the Tom Jeffcote /Mark Hogan(GBR). These two had a great tussle as the two National Champions of their respective countries, with the Australian getting the win. Richard Estaugh/ Rob Gardener(GBR) hung in behind them to finish third. Overnight leader David Wade/Ben McGrane (GBR) had their worst race of the series and finished in 18th. This meant the final points were very close between, Wade/McGrane, Matt Mee/Richard Wagstaff(GBR), R.Inns/Coultas and Tomas Musil/Jan Stantejsky(CZE).

The final race started with a black flag on the first start with the tide turning during the race. Peter Inns/Chris Went(AUS) got around the first mark just ahead of Heather Macfarlane/Chris Payne(AUS) with Greg Allison/Richard Watson (AUS) just behind, showing that the Australians can still perform in the light conditions. The race became a very close between P.Inns/Went, Macfarlane/Payne, Musil/Stantejsky, and John Heywood/Brett LittleDyke (AUS) with the four boats finishing overlapped with Macfarlane/Payne just ahead of Musil/Stantejsky. With Wade/McGrane in 5th, Mee/Wagstaff in 9th and R.Inns/Coultas back in sixteenth, Musil/Stantejsky won the regatta.

It was good to see the new boat builder, Xtreme Sailing Products, based in Singapore win their first regatta with the newly launched boat.

Now all the sailors are looking forward to the actual World Championship starting on the 16th March.

Les résultats complets ici :

http://fireball-international.com/docs/tha08_preworlds_results.pdf

Les 10 premiers :
1 CZE 14879 TOMAS MUSIL / JAN STANTEJSKY 6 9 2 (18) 13 1 6 2 = 39
2 GBR 14976 DAVID WADE / BEN McGRANE 8 11 6 4 2 8 (18) 5 = 44
3 GBR 14919 MATT MEE / RICHARD WAGSTAFF 4 2 1 25 (DNF) 4 4 9 = 49
4 AUS 14782 ROBIN INNS / JOEL COULTAS 23 3 3 (24) 1 3 1 16 = 50
5 AUS 14971 GREG ALLISON / RICHARD WATSON 7 4 (22) 14 5 7 9 8 = 54
6 AUS 14812 PETER INNS / CHRIS WENT 1 (21) 8 7 11 10 14 3 = 54
7 AUS 14587 NATHAN STOCKLEY / SAM MUIRHEAD (29) 27 9 2 7 2 5 10 = 62
8 GBR 14950 KEVIN HOPE / RUSSELL THORNE 13 13 10 1 12 12 (16) 6 = 67
9 AUS 14943 HEATHER McFARLANE / CHRIS PAYNE 5 (24) 7 20 8 15 11 1 = 67
10 AUS 14786 JOHN HEYWOOD / BRETT LITTLEDIKE (28) 17 5 8 9 11 19 4 = 73

Bon, Mart', j'imagine que t'es allé voir sur le site de XSP alias Xtreme sailing products ...
T'as trouvé un mot sur les Fire ? moi rien du tout !

J'étais pas allé voir, mais effectivement y'a rien du tout sur les Fire...

Mais bon vu les résultats du bateau ça devrait changer rapidement ! ;-)

Après la fin des quotas en Europe pour le textile chinois, peut être bientôt des quotas sur les bateaux asiatiques pour limiter l’envahissement du marché ! lol

L'arrivée du boat low cost "jetable" après 2 saisons ?
Ou de la super cam pas chère version quasi industrielle ?

Je me moque mais je connais des Chinois à qui on ne fait pas faire de produits de luxe car ils les font si bien avec une telle main qu’en boutique on ne comprendrait pas que ceux fait en Italie soient 2 fois plus chers, 2 fois plus simple et pas mieux faits …

Et nos voiles, F. ! lol

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